Comments on: BPMS Watch Ratings http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/ Bruce Silver's blog on business process management Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:30:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: bruce http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4854 bruce Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:27:03 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4854 Alan, There is a nominal fee of $6000 to the vendor for the BPMS Report, for which they get unrestricted rights of distribution through their own channel in addition to distribution through BPMInstitute. For a 12,000 word report, this comes to $.50/word - in my world that is virtually free - with over 1000 downloads from BPMInstitute in addition to their own distribution. I don't think you should make it sound so sinister. Bruce Silver Alan,
There is a nominal fee of $6000 to the vendor for the BPMS Report, for which they get unrestricted rights of distribution through their own channel in addition to distribution through BPMInstitute. For a 12,000 word report, this comes to $.50/word - in my world that is virtually free - with over 1000 downloads from BPMInstitute in addition to their own distribution. I don’t think you should make it sound so sinister.
Bruce Silver

]]> By: aandrews http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4850 aandrews Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:18:05 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4850 Bruce, Could you clarify whether you charge vendors to write the individual reports? There is a rumour about that you do? Alan Bruce,

Could you clarify whether you charge vendors to write the individual reports? There is a rumour about that you do?

Alan

]]> By: neilwd http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4846 neilwd Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:05:44 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4846 Bruce, this is brave! As someone with 15 odd years experience in this strange vendor-analyst review dance, I've always resigned myself to the fact that although it can be really tough, the upside is that the resulting analysis can never be said to be biased (unless you mess up the review process), incomplete or incorrect. So I salute your move - don't think I'm ready to do the same yet though... And I'm also interested in the rankings. We've built our own online personalisable BPM vendor comparison tool which we're offering to customers of our new BPM advisory service - you might find it interesting. Bruce, this is brave!
As someone with 15 odd years experience in this strange vendor-analyst review dance, I’ve always resigned myself to the fact that although it can be really tough, the upside is that the resulting analysis can never be said to be biased (unless you mess up the review process), incomplete or incorrect.
So I salute your move - don’t think I’m ready to do the same yet though…
And I’m also interested in the rankings. We’ve built our own online personalisable BPM vendor comparison tool which we’re offering to customers of our new BPM advisory service - you might find it interesting.

]]> By: sfrancis http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4845 sfrancis Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:21:39 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4845 Can I just say it is refreshing to see someone put the rankings out without the usual gnashing of teeth between vendors and analysts. Good post, and I look forward to reading more of the analysis! thanks, scott Can I just say it is refreshing to see someone put the rankings out without the usual gnashing of teeth between vendors and analysts. Good post, and I look forward to reading more of the analysis!
thanks,
scott

]]> By: claude.baillargeon http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4834 claude.baillargeon Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:28:09 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4834 I can only access reports on BEA, EMC, Lombardi and WebMethods. Other reports have the status "Access suspended". Is it normal? thanks, I can only access reports on BEA, EMC, Lombardi and WebMethods. Other reports have the status “Access suspended”. Is it normal?

thanks,

]]> By: rloggen http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4830 rloggen Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:03:51 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4830 Oeps, should be reading more detailed ;-). But I do hope that other BPM vendors will start to support this! Oeps, should be reading more detailed ;-).
But I do hope that other BPM vendors will start to support this!

]]> By: rloggen http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4829 rloggen Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:00:40 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2008/04/10/bpms-watch-ratings/#comment-4829 Bruce, good to see your ratings. I was wondering however - "the 11 leading BPM ". In the overview I miss large BPM players like Pega, IBM (WPS, Filenet). Are you still planning to score these? Regards, Roeland Loggen Bruce, good to see your ratings.
I was wondering however - “the 11 leading BPM “.
In the overview I miss large BPM players like Pega, IBM (WPS, Filenet). Are you still planning to score these?
Regards,
Roeland Loggen

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