Comments on: BPMN Gaining Traction in BPA Tools http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2007/05/07/bpmn-gaining-traction-in-bpa-tools/ Bruce Silver's blog on business process management Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:54:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: marlon_dumas http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2007/05/07/bpmn-gaining-traction-in-bpa-tools/#comment-1970 marlon_dumas Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:59:53 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2007/05/07/bpmn-gaining-traction-in-bpa-tools/#comment-1970 BPMN is indeed gaining traction among tool vendors . But is BPMN "good enough" and for which purposes? Which classes of BPMN users find it more useful or usable? Do business analysts find BPMN more useful than IT solution architects do? Why do people find BPMN to be an "intuitive" notation? Do early adopters of BPMN intend to continue using it into the future? The following survey, organised by the BPM Research Group at Queensland University of Technology, is gathering data to address many of these questions (and the aggregated results will be made public). Please contribute, the more the merrier: http://www.bpm.fit.qut.edu.au/projects/acceptance/survey/BPMN/ BPMN is indeed gaining traction among tool vendors . But is BPMN “good enough” and for which purposes? Which classes of BPMN users find it more useful or usable? Do business analysts find BPMN more useful than IT solution architects do? Why do people find BPMN to be an “intuitive” notation? Do early adopters of BPMN intend to continue using it into the future? The following survey, organised by the BPM Research Group at Queensland University of Technology, is gathering data to address many of these questions (and the aggregated results will be made public). Please contribute, the more the merrier: http://www.bpm.fit.qut.edu.au/projects/acceptance/survey/BPMN/

]]> By: paulvanerk http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2007/05/07/bpmn-gaining-traction-in-bpa-tools/#comment-1747 paulvanerk Tue, 29 May 2007 20:37:39 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2007/05/07/bpmn-gaining-traction-in-bpa-tools/#comment-1747 Bruce, I know my question is a little bit off topic, however I am very interested in your opinion. A few weeks ago I was writing a post about the difference between a workflow management system and a BPMS and I couldn't really figure it out. Below you can find the results of my research: Characteristics Workflow MAnagement System: Focusses on processing of digital business/office documents Manual processes or decision making processes are not considered Emphasises use of information technology Characteristics BPMS: Includes manual activities/processes Business processes can be related to every kind of resource However I think the line between BPMS and workflow management system is vanishing, because most workflow systems nowadays tend to be a BPMS. What is your opinion about this? With regards, Paul van Erk http://sourcelinq.blogspot.com Bruce, I know my question is a little bit off topic, however I am very interested in your opinion.

A few weeks ago I was writing a post about the difference between a workflow management system and a BPMS and I couldn’t really figure it out.

Below you can find the results of my research:

Characteristics Workflow MAnagement System:
Focusses on processing of digital business/office documents
Manual processes or decision making processes are not considered
Emphasises use of information technology

Characteristics BPMS:
Includes manual activities/processes
Business processes can be related to every kind of resource

However I think the line between BPMS and workflow management system is vanishing, because most workflow systems nowadays tend to be a BPMS. What is your opinion about this?

With regards,

Paul van Erk

http://sourcelinq.blogspot.com

]]> By: kewbss http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2007/05/07/bpmn-gaining-traction-in-bpa-tools/#comment-1693 kewbss Wed, 09 May 2007 23:03:19 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2007/05/07/bpmn-gaining-traction-in-bpa-tools/#comment-1693 Bruce, You probably also spotted the announcement a few days ago by Handysoft that their BizFlow BPM suite will soon have BPMN and BPEL support - see http://www.handysoft.com/news/viewPressRelease.asp?id=110 Warwick Bruce,

You probably also spotted the announcement a few days ago by Handysoft that their BizFlow BPM suite will soon have BPMN and BPEL support - see http://www.handysoft.com/news/viewPressRelease.asp?id=110

Warwick

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