Comments on: Can Your BPMS Give Advice? http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/08/31/can-your-bpms-give-advice/ Bruce Silver's blog on business process management Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:40:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: process simulation http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/08/31/can-your-bpms-give-advice/#comment-2046 process simulation Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:11:31 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/08/31/can-your-bpms-give-advice/#comment-2046 <strong>process simulation...</strong> Hi. Very nice blog. I\'ve been reading your other entries all day long..lol.... process simulation…

Hi. Very nice blog. I\’ve been reading your other entries all day long..lol….

]]> By: James Taylor http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/08/31/can-your-bpms-give-advice/#comment-204 James Taylor Fri, 01 Sep 2006 18:41:19 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/08/31/can-your-bpms-give-advice/#comment-204 Well I posted to Phil's blog - I knew that flip little comment was going to get me in trouble. As I said there: "Sometimes I can improve a process, optimize it if you will, simply by evaluating the execution of the process. Sometimes I must consider broader implications. If I want to optimize an orgination process, for instance, I probably need to consider what kinds of accounts end up in collections and a bunch of legal restrictions. Optimizing the process steps might help with certain things and will definitely give me some good indications of where to focus my energies, it's just not a substitute for a holistic assessment of rules and processes." There's a lot more on my blogs about the relationships between rules and processes (especially in the <a href="http://www.edmblog.com/weblog/business_process_management/index.html" rel="nofollow">BPM</a> section) and how you can bring analytics to bear on a process by analytically enhancing decision nodes in your process. Check out this <a href="http://www.bpminstitute.org/articles/article/article/bringing-analytics-into-processes-using-business-rules.html" rel="nofollow">article on BPM Institute also</a> Well I posted to Phil’s blog - I knew that flip little comment was going to get me in trouble. As I said there: “Sometimes I can improve a process, optimize it if you will, simply by evaluating the execution of the process. Sometimes I must consider broader implications. If I want to optimize an orgination process, for instance, I probably need to consider what kinds of accounts end up in collections and a bunch of legal restrictions. Optimizing the process steps might help with certain things and will definitely give me some good indications of where to focus my energies, it’s just not a substitute for a holistic assessment of rules and processes.”
There’s a lot more on my blogs about the relationships between rules and processes (especially in the BPM section) and how you can bring analytics to bear on a process by analytically enhancing decision nodes in your process. Check out this article on BPM Institute also

]]> By: Phil Gilbert | Perspectives in Process http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/08/31/can-your-bpms-give-advice/#comment-203 Phil Gilbert | Perspectives in Process Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:43:27 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/08/31/can-your-bpms-give-advice/#comment-203 <strong>Too Cute for Words...</strong> Bruce Silver's post about process optimization garnered a comment by Fair-Isaac's James Taylor. Bruce has recently spent a lot of time with Lombardi's product (TeamWorks) and presumably with Savvion and BEA. I don't know if James has seen any of... Too Cute for Words…

Bruce Silver’s post about process optimization garnered a comment by Fair-Isaac’s James Taylor. Bruce has recently spent a lot of time with Lombardi’s product (TeamWorks) and presumably with Savvion and BEA. I don’t know if James has seen any of…

]]> By: James Taylor http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/08/31/can-your-bpms-give-advice/#comment-202 James Taylor Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:32:56 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/08/31/can-your-bpms-give-advice/#comment-202 I agree that this is a kind of "light" predictive model - it might work well for simple cases but what if there are more subtle reasons those one's were approved? How deep is the statistical analysis I wonder. It also shows the problem of using analytics alone - the rule may not be a legal one even if it is analytically derived. This is why "engineered" predictive models are important and why combining rules and analytics matters. Cute though... I agree that this is a kind of “light” predictive model - it might work well for simple cases but what if there are more subtle reasons those one’s were approved? How deep is the statistical analysis I wonder. It also shows the problem of using analytics alone - the rule may not be a legal one even if it is analytically derived. This is why “engineered” predictive models are important and why combining rules and analytics matters.
Cute though…

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