Comments on: Claiming the Dinner Bet http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/07/06/claiming-the-dinner-bet/ Bruce Silver's blog on business process management Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:08:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: IT|Redux » Why we Need a Free BPMS http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/07/06/claiming-the-dinner-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-146 IT|Redux » Why we Need a Free BPMS Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:10:46 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/07/06/claiming-the-dinner-bet/#comment-146 [...] Last but not least, I will report progress on the BPMS Challenge. Bruce Silver is running with it as official referee, and I got his assurance that he will thoroughly investigate the claims made by a couple of vendors who believe they won the challenge. Knowing the products in competition, I must express very serious doubts about it, but I would love to be proven wrong, as long as the game remains fair, and I trust Bruce that it will. In the meantime, Intalio is actively working on its product in order to participate to the challenge later this year. [...] [...] Last but not least, I will report progress on the BPMS Challenge. Bruce Silver is running with it as official referee, and I got his assurance that he will thoroughly investigate the claims made by a couple of vendors who believe they won the challenge. Knowing the products in competition, I must express very serious doubts about it, but I would love to be proven wrong, as long as the game remains fair, and I trust Bruce that it will. In the meantime, Intalio is actively working on its product in order to participate to the challenge later this year. [...]

]]> By: ghalimi http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/07/06/claiming-the-dinner-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-139 ghalimi Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:31:45 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/07/06/claiming-the-dinner-bet/#comment-139 Bruce, I'm glad to see that both Lombardi and Cordys have a BPMN product that has been used by at least two customers. But what about the other rules for the challenge? Can we have detailed information on this? Bruce,

I’m glad to see that both Lombardi and Cordys have a BPMN product that has been used by at least two customers. But what about the other rules for the challenge? Can we have detailed information on this?

]]> By: sca http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/07/06/claiming-the-dinner-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-137 sca Thu, 06 Jul 2006 21:08:16 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/07/06/claiming-the-dinner-bet/#comment-137 Congratulations, Bruce! I thought this Dinner Bet was very exciting all the time. I am a fan of Intalio - and their recent transformation into open source bpms - as Ismael and others at Intalio already know. But also, I am really excited about these success stories, and I think and hope that they will be further documented. BPMN always had two interpretations - a visual model being understood (and shaped) by business users (and understandable for a wide audience) , but also a visualization of BPEL. I think the first goal here is the most important one, and what the success stories are really about. Next, if you also can execute using BPEL, that would just add credibility to the story. Steinar Carlsen Computas Congratulations, Bruce!

I thought this Dinner Bet was very exciting all the time. I am a fan of Intalio - and their recent transformation into open source bpms - as Ismael and others at Intalio already know. But also, I am really excited about these success stories, and I think and hope that they will be further documented.

BPMN always had two interpretations - a visual model being understood (and shaped) by business users (and understandable for a wide audience) , but also a visualization of BPEL. I think the first goal here is the most important one, and what the success stories are really about. Next, if you also can execute using BPEL, that would just add credibility to the story.

Steinar Carlsen
Computas

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