Comments on: The Business Value of BPMS http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/05/26/the-business-value-of-bpms/ Bruce Silver's blog on business process management Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:36:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: davrud http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/05/26/the-business-value-of-bpms/#comment-109 davrud Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:54:24 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/05/26/the-business-value-of-bpms/#comment-109 jdavidson, I am not surprised at your confusion. Enterprise Software companies have a habit of being so excited with their technology, features, and new 3-letter acronyms that they often fail the very people they are trying to help. There is a disconnect between the technology developers and the users of the technology. If you are interested in learning about these solutions, you might want to contact a few vendors and ask for case studies and even the opportunity to talk with a few customers. Sometimes they can also provide a customer "walk-through" or an in-context scenario-based demonstration that highlights the value of the solution, versus the typical "feature/function, let me show you how cool this is..." style. jdavidson, I am not surprised at your confusion. Enterprise Software companies have a habit of being so excited with their technology, features, and new 3-letter acronyms that they often fail the very people they are trying to help. There is a disconnect between the technology developers and the users of the technology. If you are interested in learning about these solutions, you might want to contact a few vendors and ask for case studies and even the opportunity to talk with a few customers. Sometimes they can also provide a customer “walk-through” or an in-context scenario-based demonstration that highlights the value of the solution, versus the typical “feature/function, let me show you how cool this is…” style.

]]> By: jonas http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/05/26/the-business-value-of-bpms/#comment-85 jonas Mon, 29 May 2006 09:16:18 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/05/26/the-business-value-of-bpms/#comment-85 I would say that this is not just a question about using BPM, but to use the right tools and languages for each situation. The technology platform (Java, .NET) is abstracted away behind the inter-connectivity of WS-* and SOA. The new domain specific tools and languages should be able to <strong>run</strong>, not just represented in models. I think what's important is to discuss is why models must be replaced with new languages. Business Analysts is one important group these new languages should attract. I would say that this is not just a question about using BPM, but to use the right tools and languages for each situation.

The technology platform (Java, .NET) is abstracted away behind the inter-connectivity of WS-* and SOA.

The new domain specific tools and languages should be able to run, not just represented in models. I think what’s important is to discuss is why models must be replaced with new languages.

Business Analysts is one important group these new languages should attract.

]]> By: jdavidson http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/05/26/the-business-value-of-bpms/#comment-84 jdavidson Sat, 27 May 2006 00:17:23 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/05/26/the-business-value-of-bpms/#comment-84 I am so glad to read this post because you just described my problem. I don't get it. Honestly. I've been reading here (and elsewhere) about BPMS and BPM and SOA and... In the end, I cannot quite get what you're talking about. I am a really good Business Analyst. I think I could be good doing some of the things y'all discuss. But so far I just don't get it. Maybe I need to see it working, try it out, find a coach, something, because based on what I've read so far the message is just a jumble to me. I am so glad to read this post because you just described my problem. I don’t get it. Honestly.

I’ve been reading here (and elsewhere) about BPMS and BPM and SOA and… In the end, I cannot quite get what you’re talking about. I am a really good Business Analyst. I think I could be good doing some of the things y’all discuss. But so far I just don’t get it.

Maybe I need to see it working, try it out, find a coach, something, because based on what I’ve read so far the message is just a jumble to me.

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