Comments on: Make Way For BPM 2.0 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/ Bruce Silver's blog on business process management Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:58:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: karenlopez http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/comment-page-1/#comment-4755 karenlopez Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:14:42 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/#comment-4755 How will BPM 2.0 tools differ from all the previous graphical application generators that we've seen in the past? What features will they have that will overcome the problems we saw with all the previous code generation tools from years gone by? How will BPM 2.0 tools differ from all the previous graphical application generators that we’ve seen in the past? What features will they have that will overcome the problems we saw with all the previous code generation tools from years gone by?

]]> By: BPMS Watch » Nobody Cares About BPM? http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/comment-page-1/#comment-59 BPMS Watch » Nobody Cares About BPM? Tue, 16 May 2006 17:24:50 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/#comment-59 [...] In spite of these woes, I’m optimistic.  What Ismael and I have both described as BPM 2.0 is just being released.  The marketing thing is fixable, and it costs a lot less than product development.  A trade association might not be a bad idea.  I’ve talked to John Mancini of AIIM about it.  (Vendors - if you have any interest in this, please contact me.)  Except for Gartner, there really are no major vendor-neutral IT-oriented BPM events. [...] [...] In spite of these woes, I’m optimistic.  What Ismael and I have both described as BPM 2.0 is just being released.  The marketing thing is fixable, and it costs a lot less than product development.  A trade association might not be a bad idea.  I’ve talked to John Mancini of AIIM about it.  (Vendors - if you have any interest in this, please contact me.)  Except for Gartner, there really are no major vendor-neutral IT-oriented BPM events. [...]

]]> By: BPMS Watch » BPM’s Top-Down Path to SOA http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/comment-page-1/#comment-40 BPMS Watch » BPM’s Top-Down Path to SOA Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:36:20 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/#comment-40 [...] I got a nice note yesterday from Paul Fisher, an IT exec at the FDA, on my BPM 2.0 manifesto.  He was struck, in particular, by the line that said: [...] [...] I got a nice note yesterday from Paul Fisher, an IT exec at the FDA, on my BPM 2.0 manifesto.  He was struck, in particular, by the line that said: [...]

]]> By: paul.fisher http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/comment-page-1/#comment-39 paul.fisher Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:59:53 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/#comment-39 Bruce: Really enjoyed the article - I think it's dead on. Can I quote you on this statement - "This top-down design contrasts starkly with current SOA initiatives, which are bottom-up and IT-driven, and where the services exposed for composition are determined by IT's notion of enterprise architecture, not by process-centric analysis." That's exactly what is going on in my organization - IT is running around trying to put the SOA label on everything to look good - "look Ma, we're SOA!". Daryl Plummer, at the recent Gartner Group BPM conference, gave a presentation on BPM and SOA, and made much the same point about SOA efforts needing to be driven by business process requirements for services. I'm in IT, and I don't understand why we don't seem to get it. Keep up the good work! Bruce:

Really enjoyed the article - I think it’s dead on. Can I quote you on this statement - “This top-down design contrasts starkly with current SOA initiatives, which are bottom-up and IT-driven, and where the services exposed for composition are determined by IT’s notion of enterprise architecture, not by process-centric analysis.” That’s exactly what is going on in my organization - IT is running around trying to put the SOA label on everything to look good - “look Ma, we’re SOA!”. Daryl Plummer, at the recent Gartner Group BPM conference, gave a presentation on BPM and SOA, and made much the same point about SOA efforts needing to be driven by business process requirements for services. I’m in IT, and I don’t understand why we don’t seem to get it. Keep up the good work!

]]> By: Phil Gilbert | Perspectives in Process http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Phil Gilbert | Perspectives in Process Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:12:25 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/wordpress/2006/03/30/make-way-for-bpm-20/#comment-35 <strong>Barriers To Entry...</strong> Here's the link to Bruce Silver's post on "BPM 2.0". Hi Bruce, Nice post although why do we need another "2.0" moniker? I'll bet Tim O'Reilly is kicking himself... for what it's worth, I agree with most of your... Barriers To Entry…

Here’s the link to Bruce Silver’s post on “BPM 2.0″. Hi Bruce, Nice post although why do we need another “2.0″ moniker? I’ll bet Tim O’Reilly is kicking himself… for what it’s worth, I agree with most of your…

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