Comments for BPMS Watch http://www.brsilver.com Bruce Silver on business process management Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:35:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on About the Book: BPMN Method and Style, 2nd Edition, with BPMN Implementer’s Guide by Tihomir http://www.brsilver.com/bpmn-method-and-style/comment-page-1/#comment-2384 Tihomir Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:35:59 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/#comment-2384 Yes, for me too. Actually for me is also a big challenge since I am new in BPMN and programming :) I work programmatically with an Visio drawing (and visio object model), not with vdx. Yes, for me too. Actually for me is also a big challenge since I am new in BPMN and programming :) I work programmatically with an Visio drawing (and visio object model), not with vdx.

]]> Comment on About the Book: BPMN Method and Style, 2nd Edition, with BPMN Implementer’s Guide by bruce http://www.brsilver.com/bpmn-method-and-style/comment-page-1/#comment-2383 bruce Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:42:12 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/#comment-2383 Tihomir, Good luck with your project. I found it a real challenge to deal with the complexities of extracting BPMN from the vdx, and I posted about some of my methods. I will be interested to compare your result with my tool (xslt 2.0). Tihomir, Good luck with your project. I found it a real challenge to deal with the complexities of extracting BPMN from the vdx, and I posted about some of my methods. I will be interested to compare your result with my tool (xslt 2.0).

]]> Comment on About the Book: BPMN Method and Style, 2nd Edition, with BPMN Implementer’s Guide by Tihomir http://www.brsilver.com/bpmn-method-and-style/comment-page-1/#comment-2382 Tihomir Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:24:28 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/#comment-2382 Oh, sorry I didn't bear in mind, that I only need the VisioPageSize and not BPMNPageSize. For X and Shape's PinX its clear. Cheers! Oh, sorry I didn’t bear in mind, that I only need the VisioPageSize and not BPMNPageSize. For X and Shape’s PinX its clear. Cheers!

]]> Comment on Three Cheers for BonitaSoft by bruce http://www.brsilver.com/2011/04/05/three-cheers-for-bonitasoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2381 bruce Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:01:17 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/?p=1152#comment-2381 This isn't the right post for this comment. Which Visio modeler are you talking about? The itp commerce one does export BPMN 2.0. The Visio Premium 2010 native template does not. This isn’t the right post for this comment. Which Visio modeler are you talking about? The itp commerce one does export BPMN 2.0. The Visio Premium 2010 native template does not.

]]> Comment on About the Book: BPMN Method and Style, 2nd Edition, with BPMN Implementer’s Guide by bruce http://www.brsilver.com/bpmn-method-and-style/comment-page-1/#comment-2380 bruce Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:59:10 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/#comment-2380 I don't understand your issue. I created xslt to map Visio Premium vdx to BPMN 2.0 myself. If that is what you are doing, you do need to map the x coordinates because Visio reports the center of the shape and BPMN references top left corner. On y, don't worry that BPMN has no page size. It's the Visio page size you need. The vdx gives distance from page bottom, so distance from page top is PageSize - y[reported]. I don’t understand your issue. I created xslt to map Visio Premium vdx to BPMN 2.0 myself. If that is what you are doing, you do need to map the x coordinates because Visio reports the center of the shape and BPMN references top left corner. On y, don’t worry that BPMN has no page size. It’s the Visio page size you need. The vdx gives distance from page bottom, so distance from page top is PageSize – y[reported].

]]> Comment on About the Book: BPMN Method and Style, 2nd Edition, with BPMN Implementer’s Guide by Tihomir http://www.brsilver.com/bpmn-method-and-style/comment-page-1/#comment-2379 Tihomir Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:04:07 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/#comment-2379 Bruce, thanks for the advice with the resolution attibute. But for the coordinate system convertion(actually I only need to convert the Y values) I have not an clue point since the Y values go to infinity. Maybe I could first determine the max Y value from all shapes: Y_max=Max(Y1, Y2, Y3,...., Yn) Then for each new Y value I could say Yn = Y_max - Yn Ok, but then the value for my highest shape would be e.g. Yn= 100 - 100 Bruce, thanks for the advice with the resolution attibute. But for the coordinate system convertion(actually I only need to convert the Y values) I have not an clue point since the Y values go to infinity.
Maybe I could first determine the max Y value from all shapes: Y_max=Max(Y1, Y2, Y3,…., Yn)
Then for each new Y value I could say Yn = Y_max – Yn
Ok, but then the value for my highest shape would be e.g. Yn= 100 – 100

]]> Comment on Three Cheers for BonitaSoft by saw http://www.brsilver.com/2011/04/05/three-cheers-for-bonitasoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2377 saw Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:30:46 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/?p=1152#comment-2377 Hello evereybody, I want to know if the visio modeler enables the XML serialization of the BPMN 2.0 diagramm? Thanks in advance Hello evereybody,
I want to know if the visio modeler enables the XML serialization of the BPMN 2.0 diagramm?
Thanks in advance

]]> Comment on About the Book: BPMN Method and Style, 2nd Edition, with BPMN Implementer’s Guide by bruce http://www.brsilver.com/bpmn-method-and-style/comment-page-1/#comment-2376 bruce Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:14:02 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/#comment-2376 @Tihomir, Each page in bpmndi has a resolution attribute, which (for some reason) is always specified in pixels per inch. Let's say you want resolution = 96. If your Visio coordinates are in mm (this will depend on which template you use), then you simply need to do the math: VisioMM x 1 in/25.4 mm x 96 pixels/in. Of course you also need to convert between Visio coordinate system (origin at bottom left, position of shape center) and BPMN coordinate system (origin at top left, position at shape top left). @Tihomir,
Each page in bpmndi has a resolution attribute, which (for some reason) is always specified in pixels per inch. Let’s say you want resolution = 96. If your Visio coordinates are in mm (this will depend on which template you use), then you simply need to do the math: VisioMM x 1 in/25.4 mm x 96 pixels/in.
Of course you also need to convert between Visio coordinate system (origin at bottom left, position of shape center) and BPMN coordinate system (origin at top left, position at shape top left).

]]> Comment on About the Book: BPMN Method and Style, 2nd Edition, with BPMN Implementer’s Guide by Tihomir http://www.brsilver.com/bpmn-method-and-style/comment-page-1/#comment-2375 Tihomir Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:57:51 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/#comment-2375 I got the book at the first january week. For me as non native reader/speaker its very understandable and I use the book in combination with the OMG bpmn specs. I'm trying to serialize a Visio BPMN Diagram and I am struggle with the BPMNDI part. I don't know, how can I convert/transform the shapes position data. In Visio, for example, the x/y coordinates are in inches or mm. Considering, I have a shape with X: 57 mm, Y 45 mm, Width and Height 10 mm. How schould I represent/convert these data to BPMN coordinate system? I got the book at the first january week. For me as non native reader/speaker its very understandable and I use the book in combination with the OMG bpmn specs.
I’m trying to serialize a Visio BPMN Diagram and I am struggle with the BPMNDI part. I don’t know, how can I convert/transform the shapes position data.
In Visio, for example, the x/y coordinates are in inches or mm.
Considering, I have a shape with X: 57 mm, Y 45 mm, Width and Height 10 mm. How schould I represent/convert these data to BPMN coordinate system?

]]> Comment on BPMN Training and Certification – Virtual Classroom by Jenni http://www.brsilver.com/bpmn-training-and-certification-virtual-classroom/comment-page-1/#comment-2363 Jenni Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:44:21 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/#comment-2363 Hi Bruce I'm in Melbourne, Australia, do you think you will be running training that is convenient for my time zone? Thanks, Jenni Hi Bruce

I’m in Melbourne, Australia, do you think you will be running training that is convenient for my time zone?

Thanks,
Jenni

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