Comments on: BEA State of the Market Survey http://www.brsilver.com/2008/03/05/bea-state-of-the-market-survey/ Bruce Silver on business process management Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:38:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jesper Joergensen http://www.brsilver.com/2008/03/05/bea-state-of-the-market-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-487 Jesper Joergensen Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:03:19 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/2008/03/05/bea-state-of-the-market-survey/br#comment-487 Hi Bruce, that was quick :-) Agree with Sandy's comments. $6B includes software that's not exactly BPMS. I also think the analysts will be adjusting their estimates downwards this year. We will see. Regardless, I think this will continue to be one of the highest growing enterprise software segments. So the conclusion is the same: Don't ignore BPM... Hi Bruce, that was quick :-)

Agree with Sandy’s comments. $6B includes software that’s not exactly BPMS. I also think the analysts will be adjusting their estimates downwards this year. We will see. Regardless, I think this will continue to be one of the highest growing enterprise software segments. So the conclusion is the same: Don’t ignore BPM…

]]> By: Sandy Kemsley http://www.brsilver.com/2008/03/05/bea-state-of-the-market-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-486 Sandy Kemsley Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:46:55 +0000 http://www.brsilver.com/2008/03/05/bea-state-of-the-market-survey/br#comment-486 Bruce, as one of the main authors on BEA's report, I can comment on a few of your points. The $6B is the analysts number, primarily Gartner, and I agree that I think that they're changing what they're counting in order to make the market appear larger. The 150-to-25 vendors is also an analyst figure. I disagree with you about there having been 150; if you take every vendor that has ever labelled themselves as BPM in any way (likely including modelling vendors), I'm sure that you'd reach 150. As for 25, we're definitely not there yet, although consolidating is going on; Gartner actually stated that for end of 2008, not 2007 as you suggest. Bruce, as one of the main authors on BEA’s report, I can comment on a few of your points.

The $6B is the analysts number, primarily Gartner, and I agree that I think that they’re changing what they’re counting in order to make the market appear larger.

The 150-to-25 vendors is also an analyst figure. I disagree with you about there having been 150; if you take every vendor that has ever labelled themselves as BPM in any way (likely including modelling vendors), I’m sure that you’d reach 150. As for 25, we’re definitely not there yet, although consolidating is going on; Gartner actually stated that for end of 2008, not 2007 as you suggest.

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