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	<title>Comments on: Check out Cordys</title>
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	<description>Bruce Silver on business process management</description>
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		<title>By: kunalrshah</title>
		<link>http://www.brsilver.com/2006/04/21/check-out-cordys/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>kunalrshah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, I would like to say that I&#039;ve not seen the &quot;Cordys BPMN Designer&quot; yet. Obviously, I wouldn&#039;t comment on that yet.

However, I&#039;ve heard the terms &quot;ISE - Integrated Services Environment&quot; and latched onto it initially. It made sense - from the point of view that it merely stressed on the &quot;growing importance&quot; of the &quot;composite applications&quot; / &quot;service orchestration&quot; capabilities of an IDE - Integrated Development Environment. Essentially, treating &quot;services / web services&quot; as first class citizens within an IDE&#039;s world.


But, I do agree with Sandy that we do not another new term for this. &quot;Composite Application Framework&quot; is good enough, and an existing IDE can grow into or enhance its capabilities to become a &quot;Composite Application Framework&quot;.

I woudl caution however, on treating all &quot;Composite Application Frameworks (CAF)&quot; as a BPM solution. I&#039;ll wait until I&#039;ve seen demo of Cordys&#039; product suite; before I can cast my vote for &quot;Cordys&quot; to be a CAF vs. a BPM solution.

Regards,
Kunal R Shah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I would like to say that I&#8217;ve not seen the &#8220;Cordys BPMN Designer&#8221; yet. Obviously, I wouldn&#8217;t comment on that yet.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ve heard the terms &#8220;ISE &#8211; Integrated Services Environment&#8221; and latched onto it initially. It made sense &#8211; from the point of view that it merely stressed on the &#8220;growing importance&#8221; of the &#8220;composite applications&#8221; / &#8220;service orchestration&#8221; capabilities of an IDE &#8211; Integrated Development Environment. Essentially, treating &#8220;services / web services&#8221; as first class citizens within an IDE&#8217;s world.</p>
<p>But, I do agree with Sandy that we do not another new term for this. &#8220;Composite Application Framework&#8221; is good enough, and an existing IDE can grow into or enhance its capabilities to become a &#8220;Composite Application Framework&#8221;.</p>
<p>I woudl caution however, on treating all &#8220;Composite Application Frameworks (CAF)&#8221; as a BPM solution. I&#8217;ll wait until I&#8217;ve seen demo of Cordys&#8217; product suite; before I can cast my vote for &#8220;Cordys&#8221; to be a CAF vs. a BPM solution.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Kunal R Shah</p>
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		<title>By: Column 2</title>
		<link>http://www.brsilver.com/2006/04/21/check-out-cordys/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Column 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 14:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;links for 2006-05-10...&lt;/strong&gt;

Bruce Silver&#039;s comments on Cordys BPMN process modelling tool...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>links for 2006-05-10&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Bruce Silver&#8217;s comments on Cordys BPMN process modelling tool&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
		<link>http://www.brsilver.com/2006/04/21/check-out-cordys/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 15:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link to my post on ISE didn&#039;t show up in the last comment. It&#039;s here: http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/column2/archives/2006/04/gartner_bpm_sum_11.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link to my post on ISE didn&#8217;t show up in the last comment. It&#8217;s here: <a href="http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/column2/archives/2006/04/gartner_bpm_sum_11.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/col.....sum_11.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
		<link>http://www.brsilver.com/2006/04/21/check-out-cordys/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 15:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on the ISE confusion: I heard the term at the Gartner BPM summit earlier this year and don&#039;t understand why we need a new term for this. I blogged about it here&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve checked out Cordys, looks interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on the ISE confusion: I heard the term at the Gartner BPM summit earlier this year and don&#8217;t understand why we need a new term for this. I blogged about it here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve checked out Cordys, looks interesting.</p>
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